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    AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
    NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BIRMINGHAM AL
    357 PM CST MON MAR 1 2010

    .DISCUSSION...

    A STRONG UPPER LEVEL LOW CURRENTLY MAKING ITS WAY ACROSS EAST
    CENTRAL TEXAS WILL WORK TOWARDS CENTRAL ALABAMA OVER THE NEXT 24
    HOURS. IN THE GREATEST DIVERGENCE AREA OUT AHEAD OF THIS
    LOW...SURFACE CYCLOGENENSIS WILL GENERATE A SIGNIFICANT SURFACE
    LOW IN THE NORTHERN GULF THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT. THE EVOLUTION OF
    BOTH LOW CENTERS WILL ULTIMATELY DICTATE OUR WEATHER PATTERN
    THROUGH TUESDAY EVENING.

    MODELS HAVE COME INTO PRETTY GOOD AGREEMENT WITH REGARDS TO THE
    SETUP FOR THIS EVENT...WHICH AT THIS POINT I HAVE NO OUTSTANDING
    REASON TO DISAGREE. THE DETAILS...HOWEVER...ARE STILL OUTSIDE OF
    THE MODELS ABILITY AND WILL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE MESOSCALE TO
    BE FURTHER ANALYZED. THINKING REMAINS THAT THE WARM TEMPERATURES
    LEADING UP TO THIS EVENT WILL KEEP A MAJORITY OF FOLKS IN THE
    LIQUID CATEGORY THROUGH THE FIRST HALF OF THE EVENT OR AS THE
    SURFACE LOW MOVES JUST TO OUR SOUTH AND EAST. THE FIRST OF SEVERAL
    QUESTIONS BEGIN AT THIS POINT AS THE STRENGTH OF THAT LOW ALONG
    WITH THE UPPER LEVEL PHASING WILL PRODUCE A SIGNIFICANT
    DEFORMATION ZONE RIGHT ACROSS THE HEART OF CENTRAL ALABAMA. THE
    GFS...WHICH HAS BEEN THE MOST AGGRESSIVE WITH THIS ZONE...IS
    REALLY POOLING MOISTURE AND UPWARD MOTIONS THAT CREATE A
    SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF QPF. THESE RATES ARE TROUBLING IN THAT THEY
    WOULD DEFINITELY COOL THE COLUMN DOWN RAPIDLY...ESPECIALLY IN THE
    LAST FEW THOUSAND FEET. IN THIS SCENARIO...THE HEAVY RAIN WOULD
    QUICKLY CHANGEOVER TO A HEAVY SNOW FROM BASICALLY THE BHM METRO
    AREA...EAST. THE GFS IS SUGGESTING THAT THIS WOULD OCCUR JUST
    BEFORE SUNRISE LASTING THROUGH ABOUT LUNCHTIME. I WILL SAY THAT A
    LOT OF THE ENSEMBLES SHARE THIS SAME IDEA AND SETUP...INCLUDING
    HIGHER QPF...BUT THAT IS NOT SURPRISING CONSIDERING THEY HAVE THE
    SAME BACKGROUND PHYSICS PACKAGE.

    MOVING ON FROM THE GFS...MOST OTHER SOLUTIONS...INCLUDING THE
    NAM...GEM...AND EURO HAVE SOMEWHAT LESS PRONOUNCED QPF AMOUNTS
    LEAVING THE DYNAMICAL COOLING PROCESS IN LIMBO. THAT WILL REMAIN
    THE CRUX OF THE FORECAST FROM HERE ON OUT...CAN THE PRECIP FALL
    HEAVY AND FAST ENOUGH TO COOL THIS INCREDIBLY WARM LAST FEW
    THOUSAND OR EVEN HUNDRED FEET? AND BY THE WAY...GETTING INTO THE MID
    TO UPPER 50S TODAY AND NOW CLOUD COVER INSULATING THE LOWEST
    BOUNDARY LAYER OVERNIGHT WILL NOT HELP ANYTHING!
    MY BEST FORECAST
    WOULD SAY THAT YES WE WILL TRANSITION TO SNOW AT SOME POINT JUST
    BEFORE SUNRISE IN THE ADVISORY AREA..BUT IT WILL BE DIFFICULT
    GETTING THE SNOW TO STICK...ESPECIALLY INTO A WARNING CRITERIA. IN
    THE MEANTIME...WE WILL LOOK TO KEEP THE NORTH CENTRAL AND EASTERN
    COUNTIES IN AN ADVISORY SUGGESTING THAT MOST PLACES WILL STAY
    UNDER 2 INCHES...WITH THE HIGHEST ELEVATIONS RECEIVING THE MOST...AS
    THEY DON`T HAVE TO OVERCOME QUITE AS MUCH SURFACE BOUNDARY LAYER
    WARM AIR.

    ULTIMATELY...WHAT HAS MADE THIS FORECAST DIFFICULT HAS BEEN THE
    LACK OF COLD AIR OR EVEN COLD AIR ADVECTION. THIS SYSTEM WILL HAVE
    TO RELY COMPLETELY ON DYNAMICS OR BRINGING COLD AIR DOWN TO THE
    SURFACE FROM ABOVE.
    CONDITIONS WILL HAVE TO BE NEARLY PERFECT FOR
    THIS PROCESS TO BE EFFICIENT ENOUGH TO ACCOMPLISH THIS GIVEN THE
    WARM AIR CURRENTLY IN PLACE. BE PREPARED TO GO UP OR DOWN ON THE
    AMOUNTS AND WARNINGS/ADVISORIES AS THE MESOSCALE DICTATES.




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    Guess I will close this site down since nobody post on it !




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    So you guys are going to have snow two years in a row almost to the day.

    Lucky.

    All we had was a heavy cold rain most of the day with more coming this evening.

    But NO SNOW, unlike what the GFS was showing.

    (I THINK THE GFS MODEL HAS BEEN SMOKING CRACK).
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    It is so nasty outside I came home early. Hideous weather.
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    Well unless somebody pays for some footage then I doubt that I head north tomorrow. Ya'll seem to forget that I can't go any further south without jumping into the GOM.




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    We're under a winter storm warning up here in the NE Georgia mountains,with 2"-4" predicted for tomorrow. Not holding my breath,but if we get it,I will send pics.

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    "Neutered",huh????

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    People on other sites were calling this storm a blizzard and the storm of the century or the big dog. I am sick and tired of the wishcasting and changed the title of this thread on Thursday when it looked like this historic event had almost no chance of happening cause it was just way to warm. We may still get 2 inches on MT Cheaha in Alabama but it's a huge bust for this state. I also don't understand why people complain about not getting snow at home. If you want it then get off your lazy *** and find some.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ROLLTIDE View Post
    Is this your house,Roll?
    We've already gotten the 3"-4" I thought we would,and it looks like there is a lot more coming behind it. If this ain't a 'big dog',it probably qualifies as his 'bitch'!

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    NO that is Mt Cheha the highest point in Alabama and it was where I was going to go this morning but things didn't look very good to me. Sorry TWC :)




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    New pics up in the pic section.

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    HUN Totals

    PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
    NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HUNTSVILLE AL
    952 AM CST WED MAR 3 2010...SNOWFALL TOTALS FROM THE MARCH 2 SNOW EVENT...
    A WINTER STORM BROUGHT SNOW TO A LARGE PORTION OF NORTH ALABAMA AND
    SOUTHERN MIDDLE TENNESSEE ON TUESDAY MARCH 2ND. SNOWFALL AMOUNTS
    WITHIN THE HUNTSVILLE COUNTY WARNING AREA WERE GENERALLY HIGHEST IN
    THE MOUNTAINS OF NORTHEAST ALABAMA...WHERE UP TO 6 INCHES OF SNOW
    FELL. ELSEWHERE...AMOUNTS WERE GENERALLY ONE TO TWO INCHES. BELOW IS
    A LIST OF SNOWFALL REPORTS RECEIVED FROM A VARIETY OF SOURCES.
    ...CULLMAN COUNTY...
    WEST POINT 2.5 COOP
    ...DEKALB COUNTY...
    CROSSVILLE 1.0 EMERGENCY MGMT
    FORT PAYNE 2.0 PUBLIC
    FYFFE 2.5 PUBLIC
    GERALDINE 2.5 EMERGENCY MGMT
    SYLVANIA 3.0 EMERGENCY MGMT
    1 S COLLINSVILLE 5.0 PUBLIC
    VALLEY HEAD 5.0 EMERGENCY MGMT
    IDER 5.0 EMERGENCY MGMT
    MENTONE 5.5 EMERGENCY MGMT
    MENTONE 6.0 PUBLIC/MEDIA
    ...FRANKLIN COUNTY TENNESSEE...
    COWAN 1.0 TRAINED SPOTTER
    ESTILL SPRINGS 1.0 PUBLIC
    HUNTLAND 1.3 PUBLIC
    WINCHESTER 1.7 COOP
    ...JACKSON COUNTY...
    HOLLYTREE 0.5 COOP
    WOODVILLE 0.7 TRAINED SPOTTER
    1 NE LANGSTON 1.0 COCORAHS
    PLEASANT GROVES 4.5 COCORAHS
    ...LAUDERDALE COUNTY...
    ROGERSVILLE 0.7 BROADCAST MEDIA
    ANDERSON 2.0 COOP
    ...LAWRENCE COUNTY...
    MOULTON 1.5 EMERGENCY MGMT
    ...LIMESTONE COUNTY...
    EAST ATHENS 1.0 NWS EMPLOYEE
    EAST LIMESTONE 2.0 PUBLIC
    5 E ATHENS 2.0 COCORAHS
    ...LINCOLN COUNTY...
    FAYETTEVILLE 2.0 COOP
    ...MADISON COUNTY...
    MADISON 1.0 NWS EMPLOYEE
    5 SSW HARVEST 1.1 COCORAHS
    1 NNE MADISON 1.2 COCORAHS
    4 E HARVEST 1.3 PUBLIC
    4 ENE HUNTSVILLE 1.5 COCORAHS
    3 NE HARVEST 2.0 PUBLIC
    4 SE TONEY 2.8 COCORAHS
    HSV MOUNTAIN 3.0 PUBLIC
    ...MARSHALL COUNTY...
    GUNTERSVILLE 0.9 COOP
    5 WNW ALBERTVILLE 1.5 COCORAHS
    UNION GROVE 2.0 EMERGENCY MGMT
    2 ENE GUNTERSVILLE 2.0 COCORAHS
    2 SW GUNTERSVILLE 2.8 COCORAHS
    GRANT 3.0 EMERGENCY MGMT
    ALBERTVILLE 3.0 EMERGENCY MGMT
    ARAB 3.0 EMERGENCY MGMT
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